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	<title>Comments on: ST37 Road Trip, The Jonx, and an encounter with one really crazy French dude!</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my worthless opinions. I download a shit load of music every month. I pay about $25 for the whole year in order to have limitless downloads. I know that can&#039;t be legal and I&#039;m sorry to all you musicians. But in all fairness, most of the stuff I download is pretty obscure. If I do download a new song, I limit it to one per album. I often find myself purchasing the entire album based on that one song coupled with good reviews. I&#039;m sorry but if I can&#039;t find it anywhere else, then I&#039;m gonna download it if I can. I always make it a point to legally purchase music from artists I really love and that I can readily find. One, because I want to pay the artist for all their work and two, I love to read the liner notes and lyrics and see all the artwork. If someone went through all the trouble expressing themselves on multiple levels then who am I to slap them in the face by perpetuating the &quot;starving artist&quot; concept? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The smoking bans. It&#039;s about fucking time. Many who are no longer allowed to smoke in public venues are afforded the unique opportunity to realize that they do indeed have that will power to cease smoking for that particular time interval and often find they can quit all together. What a double standard our society puts on money making machines. I find it very difficult to understand how something that not only causes cancer to the user, but to innocent bystanders is still allowed to be readily available? Then lets throw in all the chemicals they put in it to make it addictive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The drug war?? Why try? We sell that shit OTC, and we package it so we can attract the next generation of smokers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my worthless opinions. I download a shit load of music every month. I pay about $25 for the whole year in order to have limitless downloads. I know that can&#8217;t be legal and I&#8217;m sorry to all you musicians. But in all fairness, most of the stuff I download is pretty obscure. If I do download a new song, I limit it to one per album. I often find myself purchasing the entire album based on that one song coupled with good reviews. I&#8217;m sorry but if I can&#8217;t find it anywhere else, then I&#8217;m gonna download it if I can. I always make it a point to legally purchase music from artists I really love and that I can readily find. One, because I want to pay the artist for all their work and two, I love to read the liner notes and lyrics and see all the artwork. If someone went through all the trouble expressing themselves on multiple levels then who am I to slap them in the face by perpetuating the &#8220;starving artist&#8221; concept? </p>
<p>The smoking bans. It&#8217;s about fucking time. Many who are no longer allowed to smoke in public venues are afforded the unique opportunity to realize that they do indeed have that will power to cease smoking for that particular time interval and often find they can quit all together. What a double standard our society puts on money making machines. I find it very difficult to understand how something that not only causes cancer to the user, but to innocent bystanders is still allowed to be readily available? Then lets throw in all the chemicals they put in it to make it addictive.</p>
<p>The drug war?? Why try? We sell that shit OTC, and we package it so we can attract the next generation of smokers.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kilian-&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not sure what you mean by the in-stereo drums effect, but we recorded with Chris Ryan at Johnny Killed Rock &#039;n&#039; Roll in Houston, which is now called something else. Glad you liked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kilian-<br />I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by the in-stereo drums effect, but we recorded with Chris Ryan at Johnny Killed Rock &#8216;n&#8217; Roll in Houston, which is now called something else. Glad you liked it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw I dig that Jonx cut you put up Ramon. It is a little out of tuney (kind of like everything I&#039;ve ever recorded). Are they part of this instru-metal world that Chicago&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/russiancircles&quot;&gt;Russian Circles&lt;/a&gt; lives in?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also where did they record - I love the in-stereo drums effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw I dig that Jonx cut you put up Ramon. It is a little out of tuney (kind of like everything I&#8217;ve ever recorded). Are they part of this instru-metal world that Chicago&#8217;s <a href="http://www.myspace.com/russiancircles">Russian Circles</a> lives in?</p>
<p>Also where did they record &#8211; I love the in-stereo drums effect.</p>
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		<title>By: dd</title>
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		<dc:creator>dd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought I would love ST37 but somehow never got around to getting any of their stuff. Vinyl is impractical for me at the moment and their Myspace player doesn&#039;t behave for me either so they will have to continue to be a short-term mystery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the future of music front: There&#039;s an interesting book called THE FUTURE OF MUSIC. One of the proposals it puts forth is one where music is a utility not unlike electricity (or, maybe more aptly, websites). You pay a single uniform fee for access to all music, no matter where it comes from, and it gets distributed by the provider to the appropriate sources in proportion. I believe something like this goes on in Korea already, with $5/month all you can download or something. (I could be totally off base. I could also be repeating something somebody else said on this blog.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s a lot more that I have to say on the topic but I&#039;ve commented too much tonight already. Some blog in the future I&#039;ll dredge up the memory of my short-lived record label.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a pathological hatred of smoking and a deep seated libertarian leaning (although much less deep than it used to be). Therefore, smoking bans cause me cognitive dissonance in the amount they satisfy me. So, too, does the interstate highway system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, time to sleep. Must remember to buy Jonx albums next time I&#039;m in the States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought I would love ST37 but somehow never got around to getting any of their stuff. Vinyl is impractical for me at the moment and their Myspace player doesn&#8217;t behave for me either so they will have to continue to be a short-term mystery.</p>
<p>On the future of music front: There&#8217;s an interesting book called THE FUTURE OF MUSIC. One of the proposals it puts forth is one where music is a utility not unlike electricity (or, maybe more aptly, websites). You pay a single uniform fee for access to all music, no matter where it comes from, and it gets distributed by the provider to the appropriate sources in proportion. I believe something like this goes on in Korea already, with $5/month all you can download or something. (I could be totally off base. I could also be repeating something somebody else said on this blog.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more that I have to say on the topic but I&#8217;ve commented too much tonight already. Some blog in the future I&#8217;ll dredge up the memory of my short-lived record label.</p>
<p>I have a pathological hatred of smoking and a deep seated libertarian leaning (although much less deep than it used to be). Therefore, smoking bans cause me cognitive dissonance in the amount they satisfy me. So, too, does the interstate highway system.</p>
<p>Okay, time to sleep. Must remember to buy Jonx albums next time I&#8217;m in the States.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Heider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton Heider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LP4 have had that very discussion about people devaluing things that are given away for free, and Kilian&#039;s definitely right about that.  There are exceptions, like if it&#039;s something cool or fun like a sticker or a T-shirt but actual albums, you must sell them for something or people will assume (probably rightly) that they are crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP4 have had that very discussion about people devaluing things that are given away for free, and Kilian&#8217;s definitely right about that.  There are exceptions, like if it&#8217;s something cool or fun like a sticker or a T-shirt but actual albums, you must sell them for something or people will assume (probably rightly) that they are crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Anaconda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Anaconda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need to distinguish between free and not having to pay any money for it.  I dont care if i dont make any money from the music, but it shouldnt be free, if you want music, you should have to give something back (to the band, other audience members, other bands, your own band, anybody), go to a show, talk to musicians, send an email, comment on a blog, give some criticism, whatever, at least put a little bit of work into the world of music from where you are feeding without spending any money, its an EXCHANGE, not just a gimme gimme by the audience. Somebody should get something back when you get a record, and if you are too lazy to give anything real back, then you shoudl give money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to distinguish between free and not having to pay any money for it.  I dont care if i dont make any money from the music, but it shouldnt be free, if you want music, you should have to give something back (to the band, other audience members, other bands, your own band, anybody), go to a show, talk to musicians, send an email, comment on a blog, give some criticism, whatever, at least put a little bit of work into the world of music from where you are feeding without spending any money, its an EXCHANGE, not just a gimme gimme by the audience. Somebody should get something back when you get a record, and if you are too lazy to give anything real back, then you shoudl give money.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton - I&#039;m an occasional smoker, a bar smoker, an after dinner at my pop&#039;s house smoker. So as in many things I&#039;m being hypocritical. I get the worry about puritanical governmental interference for sure. And if you&#039;re not busy being born you&#039;re busy dying so I&#039;m with you on that. But while I&#039;m busy being born I&#039;d rather not go home asthmatic with itchy eyes stinking like a stale cigar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the free music thing - I get so bored with copyrights and publishing nonsense I don&#039;t know what to do. But I&#039;ve noticed something interesting about free music, particularly like if somebody is handing out free cd&#039;s at a show or something like that. Well I notice that music often gets devalued by the recipient. As if by giving it away you are saying it is cheap. So there&#039;s something to be said for putting a financial value on your work in some situations. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And of course I just put out this compilation on a CD. That costs money. You want to see a return - and I&#039;m just talking about covering costs. But I felt to give the idea of the compilation worth it had to be more than download-able mp3&#039;s, something more tangible. I don&#039;t know I&#039;m on the fence. I&#039;m in both worlds figuring out which way to go next. But always always ya got to think about getting out there and playing. That&#039;s a given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton &#8211; I&#8217;m an occasional smoker, a bar smoker, an after dinner at my pop&#8217;s house smoker. So as in many things I&#8217;m being hypocritical. I get the worry about puritanical governmental interference for sure. And if you&#8217;re not busy being born you&#8217;re busy dying so I&#8217;m with you on that. But while I&#8217;m busy being born I&#8217;d rather not go home asthmatic with itchy eyes stinking like a stale cigar.</p>
<p>On the free music thing &#8211; I get so bored with copyrights and publishing nonsense I don&#8217;t know what to do. But I&#8217;ve noticed something interesting about free music, particularly like if somebody is handing out free cd&#8217;s at a show or something like that. Well I notice that music often gets devalued by the recipient. As if by giving it away you are saying it is cheap. So there&#8217;s something to be said for putting a financial value on your work in some situations. </p>
<p>And of course I just put out this compilation on a CD. That costs money. You want to see a return &#8211; and I&#8217;m just talking about covering costs. But I felt to give the idea of the compilation worth it had to be more than download-able mp3&#8242;s, something more tangible. I don&#8217;t know I&#8217;m on the fence. I&#8217;m in both worlds figuring out which way to go next. But always always ya got to think about getting out there and playing. That&#8217;s a given.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Heider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton Heider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of free music, I re-post some comments from something else I wrote...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Essentially my philosophy about music is that in a perfect world, it would be free to everyone.  Of course, in a perfect world, I wouldn&#039;t have to work a day job, and I could sit around writing songs all day and people would bring me beer and food without me having to pay for it&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This, of course, is irrelevant to the immediate technical question of how artists are to be compensated for their creations in the coming decades of digital proliferation.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My own feeling is that ironically, the ubiquity of digital music will devalue recordings relative to live performances, such that the latter will become one of the only ways that musicians can be compensated.  So we&#039;ll all be anonymously playing for bread and beer, just like the good old days.  As ol&#039; Warhol so wisely intoned, &quot;in the future, everyone will be famous...&quot; - if, by famous, we mean throwing our pathetic little coins into the digital ocean and making a wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of free music, I re-post some comments from something else I wrote&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Essentially my philosophy about music is that in a perfect world, it would be free to everyone.  Of course, in a perfect world, I wouldn&#8217;t have to work a day job, and I could sit around writing songs all day and people would bring me beer and food without me having to pay for it&#8221;</p>
<p>This, of course, is irrelevant to the immediate technical question of how artists are to be compensated for their creations in the coming decades of digital proliferation.  </p>
<p>My own feeling is that ironically, the ubiquity of digital music will devalue recordings relative to live performances, such that the latter will become one of the only ways that musicians can be compensated.  So we&#8217;ll all be anonymously playing for bread and beer, just like the good old days.  As ol&#8217; Warhol so wisely intoned, &#8220;in the future, everyone will be famous&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; if, by famous, we mean throwing our pathetic little coins into the digital ocean and making a wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Thurman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Thurman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in NYC. A few years ago, they banned smoking in the bars, and I smoke. Well, I used to...I don&#039;t really, anymore. At first, I thought the whole thing was ridiculous and Mayor Bloomberg was pulling some sort of &quot;1984&quot; type shit...but it disn&#039;t really bother me all that much, and as time passed, I actually sort of felt that it was a nice alternative...you sort of excuse yourself, go outside and do yer thing, without bothering anybody, and there&#039;s always somebody else out there smoking, so, hey...you might actually make a new friend. Still, seeing how it was in NYC, I thought &quot;This&#039;ll never fly, here. The citizens of the Bronx alone will come together like Voltron, rise up and slay all the lawmakers. It&#039;ll be a bloodbath in the Boogie-Down.&quot; But, something bizarre transpired instead. New Yorkers actually co-operated with the whole thing, and were actually somewhat polite while congregating outside on the narrowing sidewalks. New Yorkers aren&#039;t exactly known for this type of behaviour, so I figure, like the soundman always says &quot;If it works at home, It&#039;ll work here.&quot; And as Willy Wonka would say &quot;Scratch that-reverse it.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;     You know how I feel about this free stuff? I can&#039;t comment. Because I&#039;ve downloaded, dubbed, made tapes, bought bootlegs, fucked the wife of a DJ who worked for 92 FM in Houston, so whatever I say will turn me into a hypocritical, contradictory full of shit dickhead, and I&#039;ll never let myself get painted into such a corner...I&#039;m much too vain for that. Still, I go to the Virgin Megastore in Manhattan all the time and spend tons of money on CD&#039;s...9.99 to around 20 bucks apiece. And you know what? I absolutely love the music I&#039;ve bought. It&#039;s changed my life, made me a happier person, and it&#039;ll be with me until the day I die...nothing can change that, and nothing can take it away. So for 14.99 a pop...on sale, I figure I&#039;m okay with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in NYC. A few years ago, they banned smoking in the bars, and I smoke. Well, I used to&#8230;I don&#8217;t really, anymore. At first, I thought the whole thing was ridiculous and Mayor Bloomberg was pulling some sort of &#8220;1984&#8243; type shit&#8230;but it disn&#8217;t really bother me all that much, and as time passed, I actually sort of felt that it was a nice alternative&#8230;you sort of excuse yourself, go outside and do yer thing, without bothering anybody, and there&#8217;s always somebody else out there smoking, so, hey&#8230;you might actually make a new friend. Still, seeing how it was in NYC, I thought &#8220;This&#8217;ll never fly, here. The citizens of the Bronx alone will come together like Voltron, rise up and slay all the lawmakers. It&#8217;ll be a bloodbath in the Boogie-Down.&#8221; But, something bizarre transpired instead. New Yorkers actually co-operated with the whole thing, and were actually somewhat polite while congregating outside on the narrowing sidewalks. New Yorkers aren&#8217;t exactly known for this type of behaviour, so I figure, like the soundman always says &#8220;If it works at home, It&#8217;ll work here.&#8221; And as Willy Wonka would say &#8220;Scratch that-reverse it.&#8221;<br />     You know how I feel about this free stuff? I can&#8217;t comment. Because I&#8217;ve downloaded, dubbed, made tapes, bought bootlegs, fucked the wife of a DJ who worked for 92 FM in Houston, so whatever I say will turn me into a hypocritical, contradictory full of shit dickhead, and I&#8217;ll never let myself get painted into such a corner&#8230;I&#8217;m much too vain for that. Still, I go to the Virgin Megastore in Manhattan all the time and spend tons of money on CD&#8217;s&#8230;9.99 to around 20 bucks apiece. And you know what? I absolutely love the music I&#8217;ve bought. It&#8217;s changed my life, made me a happier person, and it&#8217;ll be with me until the day I die&#8230;nothing can change that, and nothing can take it away. So for 14.99 a pop&#8230;on sale, I figure I&#8217;m okay with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Heider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton Heider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Kilian, I concede that I personally will benefit from a smoking ban, because second hand smoke bothers me (and my wife).  I guess it&#039;s just a matter of principle for me, because puritanism of any variety, or anything that smacks of puritanism just drives me nucking futs.  People are all so worried about dying, and not worried enough about living.  I have never envied smokers for even a minute, but if it makes someone that happy to suck some nicotine into their lungs, who am I to stand in their way?  I suppose I have a strange affection for vice, although I don&#039;t really have the stomach to participate in the more sublime ones.  Vice is what sets a human being apart from a machine...or a fanatic.  Sure, vices are generally unhealthy.  But we all die a little every day: to live is to die, so to speak, whether it&#039;s whiskey or lard or smoke or the myriad other poisons of this earth seeping into us.  All of us rotting from disease from the inside, slowly...well, it is kind of the essence of my personal philosophy: disease is the natural state of man, rather than health.  It&#039;s how we handle our disease, whatever it is, that sets us apart.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That having been said, it will be nice to someday play a show without coming home smelling like a fucking ashtray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Kilian, I concede that I personally will benefit from a smoking ban, because second hand smoke bothers me (and my wife).  I guess it&#8217;s just a matter of principle for me, because puritanism of any variety, or anything that smacks of puritanism just drives me nucking futs.  People are all so worried about dying, and not worried enough about living.  I have never envied smokers for even a minute, but if it makes someone that happy to suck some nicotine into their lungs, who am I to stand in their way?  I suppose I have a strange affection for vice, although I don&#8217;t really have the stomach to participate in the more sublime ones.  Vice is what sets a human being apart from a machine&#8230;or a fanatic.  Sure, vices are generally unhealthy.  But we all die a little every day: to live is to die, so to speak, whether it&#8217;s whiskey or lard or smoke or the myriad other poisons of this earth seeping into us.  All of us rotting from disease from the inside, slowly&#8230;well, it is kind of the essence of my personal philosophy: disease is the natural state of man, rather than health.  It&#8217;s how we handle our disease, whatever it is, that sets us apart.  </p>
<p>That having been said, it will be nice to someday play a show without coming home smelling like a fucking ashtray.</p>
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