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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.nonalignmentpact.com/2009/06/in-which-the-lazy-beat-upon-the-lazy.html/comment-page-1#comment-13540</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another interesting thing to think about on the innocence-vs.-experience angle of the Sonic Youth review. &lt;i&gt;Dirty&lt;/i&gt; came out in &#039;92, at the height of the grunge explosion. Most of the grunge crowd were from Generation X, i.e. born in the &#039;60s. However, except for Steve Shelley, everyone in Sonic Youth was born in the &#039;50s. Kim Gordon was 39 when &lt;i&gt;Dirty&lt;/i&gt; came out. For perspective, when Mick Jagger was 39, the Stones had just released &lt;i&gt;Tattoo You&lt;/i&gt;. The Beatles broke up when John Lennon was 30. Just after Dave Grohl turned 39, the Foo Fighters went on hiatus (for the second time).  Bonham died when he was 32. Cobain was only 27. So while the Sonic Youth of &lt;i&gt;Dirty&lt;/i&gt; is certainly a young-&lt;i&gt;er&lt;/i&gt; band than the Sonic Youth of &lt;i&gt;The Eternal&lt;/i&gt;, when most bands reach that younger age, their career is already pretty much over. Certainly, SY were not anywhere near still young enough to still be going through a youthful-rebellion phase of life. So that angle of the review rings false to me. If it exists at all, it&#039;s more like lots-of-experience-vs.-slightly-less-experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another interesting thing to think about on the innocence-vs.-experience angle of the Sonic Youth review. <i>Dirty</i> came out in &#8217;92, at the height of the grunge explosion. Most of the grunge crowd were from Generation X, i.e. born in the &#8217;60s. However, except for Steve Shelley, everyone in Sonic Youth was born in the &#8217;50s. Kim Gordon was 39 when <i>Dirty</i> came out. For perspective, when Mick Jagger was 39, the Stones had just released <i>Tattoo You</i>. The Beatles broke up when John Lennon was 30. Just after Dave Grohl turned 39, the Foo Fighters went on hiatus (for the second time).  Bonham died when he was 32. Cobain was only 27. So while the Sonic Youth of <i>Dirty</i> is certainly a young-<i>er</i> band than the Sonic Youth of <i>The Eternal</i>, when most bands reach that younger age, their career is already pretty much over. Certainly, SY were not anywhere near still young enough to still be going through a youthful-rebellion phase of life. So that angle of the review rings false to me. If it exists at all, it&#8217;s more like lots-of-experience-vs.-slightly-less-experience.</p>
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		<title>By: baleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>baleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents. On two occasions I resided in the Bissonette Plaza apartments that were located on Westpark and Buffalo Speedway. They were beautiful blocks of apartment units built in the forties. In between the buildings were courtyards with rumpled sidewalks from the huge oak trees.Cats evreyehere. There were three different pools and covered parking with no stupid security gates. There was minimal thru traffic on the streets and it was always quiet. As I remember, the apartmants were all-bills-paid with central air. My grandmother also lived there when I was a young child and I used to visit her and play dominoes in her kitchen. Of course, I was kicked out of this idyllic place so a parking lot and a Kroger could replace it. And yes, I&#039;m waxing nostalgic, but that is my point. This place that had no funtional flaws was demolished and dissapeared so some dickwad developer could make a piece and I&#039;m still not over it. Now when I drive through Southhampton and see all of the &quot;Stop Ashby Highrise&quot; signs in the yards I really don&#039;t give a shit. Are they any more priveledged than I am not to lose a part of their neighborhood? Nobody gave a shit about my beloved Bissonette Plaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents. On two occasions I resided in the Bissonette Plaza apartments that were located on Westpark and Buffalo Speedway. They were beautiful blocks of apartment units built in the forties. In between the buildings were courtyards with rumpled sidewalks from the huge oak trees.Cats evreyehere. There were three different pools and covered parking with no stupid security gates. There was minimal thru traffic on the streets and it was always quiet. As I remember, the apartmants were all-bills-paid with central air. My grandmother also lived there when I was a young child and I used to visit her and play dominoes in her kitchen. Of course, I was kicked out of this idyllic place so a parking lot and a Kroger could replace it. And yes, I&#8217;m waxing nostalgic, but that is my point. This place that had no funtional flaws was demolished and dissapeared so some dickwad developer could make a piece and I&#8217;m still not over it. Now when I drive through Southhampton and see all of the &#8220;Stop Ashby Highrise&#8221; signs in the yards I really don&#8217;t give a shit. Are they any more priveledged than I am not to lose a part of their neighborhood? Nobody gave a shit about my beloved Bissonette Plaza.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to imagine that if there is a &quot;zeitgeist&quot; in Houston that is it is probably wrapped around 30ish neo-professional spiky-haired mooks and their constant probes for empty sexual release. You know, nothing so uplifting as historical preservation. There is no history in the loins of morons. And yeah, I&#039;m not even sure what that means either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to imagine that if there is a &#8220;zeitgeist&#8221; in Houston that is it is probably wrapped around 30ish neo-professional spiky-haired mooks and their constant probes for empty sexual release. You know, nothing so uplifting as historical preservation. There is no history in the loins of morons. And yeah, I&#8217;m not even sure what that means either.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, wow.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen and haven&#039;t been able to find any information about where they went.  Most of them were renters and the houses that they were renting were very poorly maintained shacks, so I can say pretty confidently that at the very least the structures they are living in now are better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen and haven&#8217;t been able to find any information about where they went.  Most of them were renters and the houses that they were renting were very poorly maintained shacks, so I can say pretty confidently that at the very least the structures they are living in now are better.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m a zombie.  I can&#039;t turn into a bat or anything.  Or I couldn&#039;t last time I tried.  Maybe I should try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m a zombie.  I can&#8217;t turn into a bat or anything.  Or I couldn&#8217;t last time I tried.  Maybe I should try again.</p>
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		<title>By: jdenkmire</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdenkmire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You SHOULD have disclosed that, Julie. That&#039;s on the dream job list for me. And you should know Justin is actually a member of the undead, though what classification I am not certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You SHOULD have disclosed that, Julie. That&#8217;s on the dream job list for me. And you should know Justin is actually a member of the undead, though what classification I am not certain.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I should disclose that I&#039;m an archivist and have worked closely with old photographs of Houston. Justin, the mansions were here in the 19th and early 20th centuries, so you probably wouldn&#039;t remember them unless you&#039;re a vampire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I should disclose that I&#8217;m an archivist and have worked closely with old photographs of Houston. Justin, the mansions were here in the 19th and early 20th centuries, so you probably wouldn&#8217;t remember them unless you&#8217;re a vampire.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot more to Doty than this slight essay. Here is one of my favorites of his poems, borrowed from www.markdoty.org. 

At the Gym

This salt-stain spot
marks the place where men
lay down their heads,
back to the bench,

and hoist nothing
that need be lifted
but some burden they&#039;ve chosen
this time: more reps,

more weight, the upward shove
of it leaving, collectively,
this sign of where we&#039;ve been:
shroud-stain, negative

flashed onto the vinyl
where we push something
unyielding skyward,
gaining some power

at least over flesh,
which goads with desire,
and terrifies with frailty.
Who could say who&#039;s

added his heat to the nimbus
of our intent, here where
we make ourselves:
something difficult

lifted, pressed or curled,
Power over beauty,
power over power!
Though there&#039;s something more

tender, beneath our vanity,
our will to become objects
of desire: we sweat the mark
of our presence onto the cloth.

Here is some halo
the living made together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot more to Doty than this slight essay. Here is one of my favorites of his poems, borrowed from <a href="http://www.markdoty.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.markdoty.org</a>. </p>
<p>At the Gym</p>
<p>This salt-stain spot<br />
marks the place where men<br />
lay down their heads,<br />
back to the bench,</p>
<p>and hoist nothing<br />
that need be lifted<br />
but some burden they&#8217;ve chosen<br />
this time: more reps,</p>
<p>more weight, the upward shove<br />
of it leaving, collectively,<br />
this sign of where we&#8217;ve been:<br />
shroud-stain, negative</p>
<p>flashed onto the vinyl<br />
where we push something<br />
unyielding skyward,<br />
gaining some power</p>
<p>at least over flesh,<br />
which goads with desire,<br />
and terrifies with frailty.<br />
Who could say who&#8217;s</p>
<p>added his heat to the nimbus<br />
of our intent, here where<br />
we make ourselves:<br />
something difficult</p>
<p>lifted, pressed or curled,<br />
Power over beauty,<br />
power over power!<br />
Though there&#8217;s something more</p>
<p>tender, beneath our vanity,<br />
our will to become objects<br />
of desire: we sweat the mark<br />
of our presence onto the cloth.</p>
<p>Here is some halo<br />
the living made together.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Lost His Way</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Lost His Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t even looked at the article. The way your post was written though I saw a few well tied together themes so I didn&#039;t think bad journalism was the ultimate focus.

It&#039;s funny that Doty mentions the sky in the very first sentence (I&#039;m a genius!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t even looked at the article. The way your post was written though I saw a few well tied together themes so I didn&#8217;t think bad journalism was the ultimate focus.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that Doty mentions the sky in the very first sentence (I&#8217;m a genius!).</p>
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